SuperDelegate counts since 4-26

Since the rash of supers declared (I'll set that day as 4-26), we've got the following numbers for Supers:

4/26 (Obama 1, Hillary 1):
Obama:
DNC Charlene Fernandez (AZ)

Hillary:
Kathy Sullivan (NH)

4/28 (Obama 2, Hillary 0):
Obama:
Sen. Jeff Bingaman (NM)
Fmr. DNC Chairman Paul Kirk (MA)

4/29 (Obama 2, Hillary 2):
Obama:
DNC Richard Machacek (IA)
Rep. Ben Chandler (KY)

Hillary:
Gov. Mike Easley (NC)
Rep. Ike Skelton (MO)

4/30 (Obama 3, Hillary 2):
Obama:
Rep. Bruce Braley (IA)
Rep. Baron Hill (IN)
Rep. Lois Capps (CA)

Hillary:
DNC William George (PA)
DNC Luisette Cabanas (PR)

5/1 (Hillary 5, Obama 2):
Obama:
DNC Joe Andrew (IN) from Clinton to Obama.
DNC John Patrick (TX)

Hillary:
Andrew Cuomo (NY)
Tom DiNapoli (NY)
Virginia Fields
Carmen Arroyo (NY)
John Olsen (CT) for Clinton
DNC Herman Farrell Jr. (NY)

Total (Obama 10, Hillary 10).

Maryland suspended their announcement until Saturday (2 for Obama) and Illinois will officially announce theirs on Monday (3 for Obama).

Just a note, between PA and the 26th, Obama pulled 3 of the 4 declared supers. So, since PA, Obama 13, Hillary 11.

Please add where I've missed.



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Re: SuperDelegate counts since 4-26 (2.00 / 1)

Maybe the question should be, since the Clintons are most certainly part of the "DC Establishment", why don't they support one of their own?


by bawbie on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:58:22 AM EST

Re: SuperDelegate counts since 4-26 (2.00 / 1)

i'm not sure what your point is.

If you care to add to the discussion regarding supers I'm happy to hear you out.

Seeing that Hillary's chances to win this thing hinge on Supers, it's worth tracking and it's worth keeping these junk posts to a minimum.


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by alex100 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:02:15 PM EST

It doesn't get any more status quo than HRC. (none / 0)


by dystopianfuturetoday on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:02:23 PM EST

Re: I am calling you on your BS! (none / 0)

You are so wrong it's laughable!

Only since she began running for President have you people (Hillary haters/Obama supporters/the Right) started saying she is the status quo. But your proof of that is what? That she was married to Bill and has been on the political scene for twenty years?

In my opinion time spent in government does not equal the status quo. Status quo = the same positions on issues as the Bush administration and a promise of continuation of his moronic policies on everything from the War on Terror to protecting the environment to appointing Supreme Court Justices. Hillary's policies are LIGHTYEARS ahead of any policy proposal by John McCain. I would also argue that many of Hillary's policies (her Green Jobs plan, for example) are significantly more detailed and progressive than anything Sen. Obama has proposed. Which is propbably why Sen. Obama has copied so many of them (like his hilarious Oregon Plan, for example.)

The point is, every time you ignorantly equate Hillary Clinton with the status quo you are also hurting YOUR candidate and OUR party. You may not agree with everything she says, but keep the bigger picture in mind, please. You will never, ever, ever, ever catch me calling Sen. Obama Bush/Cheney light, even if he did vote for the Dick Cheney energy bill.


by Misty Mountain Maggie on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:22:08 PM EST
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Re: I am calling you on your BS! (none / 0)

yet I've seen no proof that Hillary is beyond the status quo. Iraq, bankruptcy reform, cuba relations lobbyist, and the list can go on and on where IS status quo.

and I'm not one to make excuses for Obama. He's not beyond reproach nor do I think he's the transformative leader I would have preferred. What he might be is the one who bridges the gap between where we are currently and the next leader which will be a true progressive (speeches do matter).

I don't think we hurt the party when you call someone out on being status quo. For one, politicians need to be pushed to be better governors of the people. That's not usually the case in American politics. I fully believe that taking away lobbyist power is only the beginning to a better U.S. Government.

personally, I think both these candidates are great for reasons other then they being "progressive" or "liberal" because both of them have severe handicaps on a host of issues. But don't let me speak up too loud. I wouldn't want to "hurt" the party.


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by alex100 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 02:01:56 PM EST
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You sound as if you're trying to convince yourself (none / 0)

Obama represents a break from the past like nothing we've seen in decades. I'm sorry you can't see that.

Oh, and characterizing your opponant as a hater is exactly the type of status quo politics we need to get away from.   Practice what you preach.


by dystopianfuturetoday on Fri May 02, 2008 at 03:57:40 PM EST
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Re: SuperDelegate counts since 4-26 (2.00 / 1)

But let's not forget he leads in the popular vote and the delegates too!  If we want to take this thing we need to keep our eyes on the prize.

Despite the fact that our candidate is saying that it's the popular vote now, it really is the delegates and she knows this or else she wouldn't be telling them to wait.  It won't look good if she changes her mind again.


by Chelseain32 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:08:28 PM EST

that is certainly BS (2.00 / 2)

clinton has more DNC SDs then Obama by like 25.

Also hillary had originally a huge 100 lead in SDs.

So no DC establishment does nto back Obama, it backs Clinton.


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by kindthoughts on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:09:37 PM EST

Re: SuperDelegate counts since 4-26 (2.00 / 1)

I have already called you out on this, but you're still parroting this line.

Superdelegates, by definition, are the DC establishment and the party elites.

Do you expect him to not accept endorsements from any superdelegates?


by PSUdan on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:14:04 PM EST

Furthermore... (none / 0)

This guy seems to be arguin elected representatives are "DC Establishment" but DNC appointees are somehow the voice of the people.

Hillaryous!


by Pragmatic Left on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:42:01 PM EST
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Re: Furthermore... (none / 0)

i'm not sure why he's even framing it in such a way.  It's very odd.


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by alex100 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 02:04:29 PM EST
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Re: SuperDelegate counts since 4-26 (none / 0)

Every time Obama and Clinton split a couple superdelegates, it just shrinks the pool of uncommitteds that she could conceivably make up the pledged delegate gap with.  Once all the add-ons are apportioned I doubt there will even be 100 uncommitted superdelegates left.


by Skaje on Fri May 02, 2008 at 06:23:43 PM EST

Re: SuperDelegate counts since 4-26 (none / 0)

update:
since PA, Obama 13, Hillary 12.

One more went to Hillary today.


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by alex100 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 10:52:05 PM EST


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